What if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned but we all got to exist, still. Stephen Lett will thank Jehovah for removing that extra chromosome and granting him some of that "mental int-a-lact" he talks about:
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Let's play the "what if" game - a little thought experiment.
by doubtfull1799 in“if adam and eve hadn’t sinned they would have lived forever and we would all now be still living in paradise” is how watchtower theology goes, right.
(well not us personally, as history would have turned out completely differently and there would be different people on the planet, not us.
when you think about it you owe your very existence to the fact that they didn’t obey.
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"Go and tell someone who cares...I dont care!"
by stuckinarut2 ini don't usually like the confrontational approach to those on the carts, however this video is a great example of how jws do not really care about child abuse issues!.
the arrogance of this brother is disturbing..... bear with the video.
it gets really interesting around the 6 min mark, where the brother loses his cool.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5chulnnyqs.
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EW! That old guy is a SKIDMARK of a person. "You're a bit messed up, aren't ya? But where are you gunna go? Haha... You're a bit screwed up, hey?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
I would NOT be surprised if HE is the type of person who WT is protecting in their hidden databases. He looks like a creep, acts like a vile sack of sh*t and jeers like a dirty, old man. I'd be humiliated if I were his partner in the cart work.
What a piece of sh*t. Seriously. I need to go run another shower now that I've listened to his low-brow slurs. Ugh.
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The story of 2 study's
by karter inin my old congro 2 people started study's at about the same time.. lets call them john and jane.. john started a study with an elder who was related to most of the b.o.e.. jane with my mother a publisher with an unbleaving mate.. they both progressed well to the point of baptism.. johns house was nothing short of a pigsty overgrown grass inside filthy ect.. janes was not alot better.. when they both wanted to bet baptised jane was held back becouse of the state she kept her house but john was aloud to get baptised.. when the elders told jane this she she stopped her study and went to another religion and lived happly ever after.. the diffrence bettween john and jane appart from he studyed with and elder related to most of the b.o.e........ jane was blind!!.
more to this story.. john quickly moved along with the j.w's doing mic's sound ect and eventually married a sister.. john had 2 children from a previous relationship his son lived with him but he said he never saw his daughter becouse his ex had poisoned her against him.. the son became a j.w and was a real nice guy eventuly getting married to a nice sister and settling down ,both are good j.w's.
to this day.. john however turned out to be a wife beating s.o.a.b they had a child and she was pregnant with number 2 when the police were called on him for beating her up and he was arrested.. the police locked him up for the nite and took him to court the next day were he was found guilty of beating her up.. this was all kept very quite and the elders never took any action against john.. as any court records are open to the public you would think he would at least be "publicly reproved"....nothing!!..
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You know how people play that "would you rather" game? Like, "Would you rather lose both arms or both legs in accident? Would you rather be deaf or blind?" kind of thing?
In this case, I definitely know what I would rather when it comes to either being blind or being trapped in the Organization.
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Caleb and Sophia Video Mashup to Hard Knock Life
by Wild_Thing ini thought this video was pretty well done and mildly entertaining to watch.. on another note, i am really hoping some clever ex-jws will do their own animation series with caleb and sophia as young adults trying to leave the org.
that would be awesome.
caleb and sophia ... the ex-jw years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwoitxaa_u.
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Credit to @stuckinarut2 for sharing "Jehovah Boy" with me when I started fading and needed cheering up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tFnxfNFn-8&t=78s
I've watched this too many times and it's STILL funny.
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"Wondrous expansion is now taking place!"
by stuckinarut2 inso we have all heard the worldwide reports about khalls being sold off and congregations being amalgamated etc.... of course, jws are being told that these actions are a sign of "just how much the work is progressing, and how jehovah is blessing the increase and expansion!".
i can share the following from my part of the world too!.
in perth, western australia the following has occurred.. three "new" congregations have been formed!
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Ooooh, you're the first one to comment on your own thread.
@stuckinarut2 be like:
Just kidding ;). Good point, Stuck! Corrupt and deceitful to its core! JWs are the Kamikaze soldiers still fighting decades after the war ended, as Lloyd once put it. Forget Prisoners of War. They are Prisoners of Propaganda.
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Unprivileged
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho insomething just dawned on me today as i processed my assimilation into the real world (thanks to our new poster, @jester, giving me a major throwback to my first post).. when you're a jehovah's witness, you really are in some sort of la la land.
things which are perfectly normal are acts of eating from the table of the demons.
things which are horribly grotesque and extremely unjust are branded as "righteousness".
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@truthseeker Please. Those chores are as much of a privilege as mopping up the c*m puddles in a porno booth.
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Just thought I'd share. New up coming apostate
by joe134cd injust listened to this delightful young irish lass and just thought i'd share.
a pleasure to listen to her.
well spoken and presents a good argument.. https://youtu.be/qitwc2qumgs.
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@joe134cd I'm so grateful you introduced me to her channel. Thank you.
@Sour Grapes Me too! In her latest vid, she bravely appeared on camera for the first time! Looks like her appearance certainly matches the beauty within. Such a stunning, articulate young woman. I'd love to see her go far with her activism. She's so sincere and passionate.
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Susanna and the elders
by Lost in the fog ini stumbled across this picture.
the title and the subject matter seemed apt in view of recent developments in the news.. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/uhw3sjae .
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Oh my gosh. That is every judicial committee a sister has found herself in after committing some infraction of a sexual nature.
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Non JW and JW friendships
by ricsa inhimy story is as follows.
i've been friends with a guy for round 1,5 years.
he told me once he had another guy friend who was gay.
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@ricsa Wow, I'm really impressed that a regular person (outside of the JW cult) would take the time and energy to research their friend's religion. You sound like a really sincere, thoughtful person who's willing to examine things outside of his own interests. Most people hear the word "religion" and don't want to know about it. It's a really admirable quality you have and is a credit to the friendship you clearly value with this guy :). He's lucky to have a reasonable person like you in his life!
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Brotherly love in action..
by Jrjw ini'm so upset and angry at the same time.
i move in less than 2 weeks and was supposed to be getting help off "brothers" to move and one of them was driving the van and now the elders have had a meeting and told the brothers they can't help coz i'm separated from my (abusive) jw husband and with moving it puts the chances of reconciliation (of which there was zero chance) even further away.
where are these stupid rules that they come up with.
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@usualusername1 She's in Scotland.
Urgh, I'm in Australia. I wish I lived closer so I could give you a hand/sort something out for you! Well done for making this move. Wash your hands of both your ex and this religion. Toxic, to say the least. You're finally embarking on a road to a much less stressful, brighter and freer future. We've got your back!
Word of caution - be careful about jumping into a mirror organization or falling for the love bombing of any new church. I say this because I know how much the JWs LOVE having a disgruntled church member attend a meeting. As JWs, we were trained to latch right on and revel in the newly-interested one's church's shortcomings.
I know for a fact that churches hate the JW religion (and justifiably so, thanks to the amount of hate Watchtower dishes up against every other Christian denomination), so I can see you elevated as an example to whichever church you fellowship with as the JW "survivor". Try not to get too mixed up in their adulation and version of love bombing. There's a good lesson to learn from the JW manipulation and over-friendliness to newcomers :).